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I’d wondered why Haruhi and Luck Star were in limbo so long.

Can only assume that their respective production committees wanted more for the properties than what Sentai or VIZ thought they were worth.

I’ve seen several posts that asked this same question. So, now I wonder if maybe the Bandai dubs were not available? Usually dub rights go with the original production grouping, but these were done for Bandai and it could be that they retained an interest. Not being able to license the dubs with the series, or having to pay extra $ for them, could very well have gummed up the works on Haruhi and Luck Star.

Hmm, that could explain why K-ON! season 1 took a while for Sentai to license. It’s all just speculation now.

Mark Gosdin

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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-01-19/fractale-production-committee-halts-n-american-simulcast
[size=20]Fractale Production Committee Halts N. American Simulcast[/size]
posted on 2011-01-19 20:30 EST
Japanese copyright holders ask Funimation to eliminate unauthorized videos on net

The North American anime distributor Funimation has informed ANN that the Fractale Production Committee — the Japanese copyright holders of the Fractale television anime series — has forced the company to halt its simulcast of Fractale after only one episode. According to Funimation representatives, the committee requested that Funimation eliminates unauthorized videos of the anime on the Internet — including streaming sites, file-sharing networks, and file servers — before its simulcast will be allowed to continue. As a result, there will not be a simulcast of the second Fractale episode tomorrow, and the rest of the series’ simulcast is on indefinite hold.

Funimation Marketing Director Lance Heiskell told ANN, “We are disappointed that this series has been distributed illegally, and we’re actively working to remove the first episode from illegal streaming and downloading sites; we’ve got a dedicated anti-piracy team in place that works on controlling all of our simulcast material. However, our Japanese partners for this series have decided that since this episode is currently uncontrolled and is available illegally in all territories, they don’t want the episode online.”

The fantasy anime premiered in Fuji TV’s late-night Noitamina timeslot in Japan and on Funimation’s streaming service in North America last Thursday; Funimation has an ongoing deal in place to simulcast programs from that timeslot. Kannagi and The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya’s Yutaka Yamamoto is directing the anime at his studio Ordet and A-1 Pictures. As of Wednesday evening, the first episode is still streaming on Funimation’s website.

The story is set on an island at the far reaches of a continent where the “Fractale System” is on the brink of collapse. A boy named Clain embarks on a journey to search for Phryne — a girl who disappeared, leaving behind only a pendant. Clain will eventually learn the secrets of the “System”.

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I wasn’t actually interested in this in the first place, but this strikes me as a bit off.
If the piracy isn’t from FUNi’s stream of Ep. 01, I find this rather heavy-handed.

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Well, apparently some of the illegal torrents are direct rips from Funi’s site. But regardless, it is a bit heavy handed. Sadly simulcasting has one little to stem the flow of fansubs and illegal downloads. It’s something the Japanese may just have to live with up to a point.

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And apparently…

Quoted from Zac on ANN when someone said that they were probably talking about copies of FUNi’s stream:

[quote]Boy, you’d think that, wouldn’t you?

But nope. We clarified with Funimation on this. They mean everything.[/quote]

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Yeah, apparently there are also at least two separate groups fansubbing this as well. rolls eyes

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At this point getting rid of fansubs is like trying to punch a hole in water.

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boy…you try to combat piracy by giving the people what they want and the Japanese screw it up…as usual.

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I don’t know if I should laugh or facepalm at this. If it’s true whom of the committee is asking this then this is not the first time they’ve asked something bat poop insane. It’s what happens when you wait to long to handle something. Course the people doing it illegal are in the wrong ,but in the end both the Japanese and the illegal people from what I’ve learned over the years are like running in to a brick wall over & over again.

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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU----------------------------------

Just take it off tv and dvd and everything if you don’t want fansubs.

Now I am going to watch it fansubbed, I liked the first episode. Man why is everything that director touches cursed, I like his work.

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[quote=mitamaking]
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU----------------------------------

Just take it off tv and dvd and everything if you don’t want fansubs.

Now I am going to watch it fansubbed, I liked the first episode. Man why is everything that director touches cursed, I like his work.[/quote]

Because some dude went back in time then spit in the primordial ooze. :laugh:

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Thats… Majorly unfortunate. Wow, I really can’t believe that. It’s like no one on the Fractale team has ever logged on to the internet. Why would you take down the only legal means of obtaining the show in north america?

That aside-- for those of you thinking about seeing “fansubs” as the only alternative, I selfishly ask of you this: Try to support Funi during their dilemma. Try to go without this fantastic series for a while. Supporting Fansubs by watching them streamed or torrenting them only adds to the bigger problem.

Just by visiting the fansubbers site, you’ve given them money from letting them show you adds. That doesn’t sit well with me. If someone’s going to get my money or my time spent watching adds, it should be the creating company, or the company promoting it.

As they say, “Time is money, friend.”

I hope that didn’t offend anyone. That’s just my proverbial 2 cents.

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You can’t blame the Fractale Production Committee for wanting to protect their work by [trying] to prevent the illegal distribution of their series. However, it’s inevitable that it will end up on the internet from fansubbing groups. Like Inphy said, I think watching a fansub is pretty much exactly like watching a rip from funimation’s online player. So doing so isn’t helping the situation any… Also:

[quote=Inphy]
As they say, “Time is money, friend.”[/quote]

Only Goblins say that… :stuck_out_tongue:

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Careful with World of Warcraft references, not everyone gets them. Though I heard the goblins voice clearly when I read that. I played that game for too long…

A pie chart showed the reasons why someone didn’t have a girlfriend, and the vast majority of it was “I have a level 80 Paladin.”

Is it a coincidence that I have a girlfriend now after I quit the game?

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[quote=redshirt1]
Careful with World of Warcraft references, not everyone gets them. Though I heard the goblins voice clearly when I read that. I played that game for too long…

A pie chart showed the reasons why someone didn’t have a girlfriend, and the vast majority of it was “I have a level 80 Paladin.”

Is it a coincidence that I have a girlfriend now after I quit the game?[/quote]

My friend plays with his girlfriend so…

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Too much paladin makes not enough pals for din-din?

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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-01-20/fractale-french-simulcast-still-continues
[size=20]News: Fractale’s French Simulcast Still Continues[/size]
posted on 2011-01-20 18:34 EST
Fantasy TV anime series’ 2nd episode streaming on region-locked sites

The French video streaming sites wat.tv and wakanim.tv are both now streaming the second episode of Fractale as part of their ongoing simulcast deal for the series. The episodes are region-locked.

On Wednesday, the copyright holders in the Fractale Production Committee halted the North American simulcast of Fractale after one episode and requested that licensee Funimation eliminate unauthorized copies of the series from the Internet before the simulcast may continue. As of Thursday evening, Funimation is still streaming the first episode of the series.

Wat.tv announced its simulcast of Fractale on January 15. The episodes are available for free in 1080p resolution for one month, at which point the episodes are available on a rental basis at a price of 0.79 Euros (about US$1.06) for 48 hours.

Funimation announced its simulcast of the fantasy anime on January 12. The series premiered in Fuji TV’s late-night Noitamina timeslot in Japan and on Funimation’s streaming service in North America last Thursday; Funimation has an ongoing deal in place to simulcast programs from that timeslot. Kannagi and The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya’s Yutaka Yamamoto is directing the anime at his studio Ordet and A-1 Pictures.

Update: Wakamin announced its simulcast of Fractale on January 5.

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I knew it - Japan still hates America. 65 years later, they still mad.

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[quote=ZakuAce]
I knew it - Japan still hates America. 65 years later, they still mad.[/quote]

Naw…if that were the case, then all N.A. simulcasts would have been halted: not just Funi’s, but CR’s and TAN’s as well.

This seems more like Japan,or a certain group/groups in Japan, hates Funi.
That’s why Funi only got one of the new Noitamina shows, the other went to CR.
And now they don’t even have that one anymore.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it show up on CR.

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[quote=Inphy]
That’s… Majorly unfortunate. Wow, I really can’t believe that. It’s like no one on the Fractale team has ever logged on to the internet. Why would you take down the only legal means of obtaining the show in north america?

That aside-- for those of you thinking about seeing “fansubs” as the only alternative, I selfishly ask of you this: Try to support Funi during their dilemma. Try to go without this fantastic series for a while. Supporting Fansubs by watching them streamed or torrenting them only adds to the bigger problem.

Just by visiting the fansubbers site, you’ve given them money from letting them show you adds. That doesn’t sit well with me. If someone’s going to get my money or my time spent watching adds, it should be the creating company, or the company promoting it.

As they say, “Time is money, friend.”

I hope that didn’t offend anyone. That’s just my proverbial 2 cents.[/quote]

If I may, the main site I use to find fansubs has no ads, I really try to avoid the ones with tons of ads(you hear that Reality Lapse, your site stinks)

I will support Funi by continuing to watch shows they stream legitimately, be it Princess Jellyfish, One Piece, or Brotherhood on Adult Swim, I will support them. And if Fractale returns before the series ends I will watch it, even on a delay like I did Shikabane Hime and Baka and Test. Look I am dropping the fan sub of I.S. even though I don’t think I will be able to work the Online Player, as anyone who has known me on this forums knows I believe in ad-based streaming as a major piece of the future of anime, and the American companies have shown they do too. But I do not want to support Fractale at all, I liked the episode, it ended on a cliffhanger, I want to know what happens next.

Everyone always says we consumers don’t deserve anime, I don’t think the Fractale Production Committee deserves my business if they are that against America streams.