Old Movies / Canceled TV Shows Archive Thread

I see what you are saying about BSG and I understand your points of view. However, I saw something else in the ending that made me think. I watched it a second time & a third with an open mind.

Yes, they do imply that “God” did it, but from the scenes at the very end, they also imply that God is a Cylon. Maybe Ron Moore’s little joke on humanity. When he was interviewed, he did say that he wanted to push the envelope and make people really think about the ending.

The ending just made me think that if we do not learn from our past (or future) mistakes, then history will repeat itself (in the context of the show). I took that whole God is a Cylon thing to the level that right now, we worship computers and technology more than any higher being. I think Moore was giving us a warning more than trying to insult religion. The world is a mess right now and I think he was just trying to comment on it.

At least that is how I saw it, but I may be completely wrong.

I can see that, but I think my biggest problem is that I’ve seen this type of ending before. It’s actually been done quite a few times before in anime, like EYES Of Mars or even Demon Lord Dante (to an extent.) I think if it wasn’t something I had been exposed to before, I would have enjoyed it before.

But the ending does make you think, and that’s always a good thing. I just think the execution could have been pulled off a bit better. But at least the show did have a true ending, though part of me was hoping we would just see Galactica fly off into the sunset as the crew continues their search. :slight_smile:

It might have been done slightly better and it was a little rushed after the way the rest of the show was presented. However, it worked for me!

And it would have been amazing to see Galactica fly off like that - it would have left it open for a possible continue. But everyone does that. Would have been a little too Star Trek for me.

That being said, I wonder how they will treat the movie?

well it looks like I have to finish BSG

It felt to me that they wrote themselves into a corner with Starbuck and couldn’t think of a decent way out of it, so just shrugged their shoulders and said God did it. As for them all settling happily down on Earth at the end with no technology, they wouldn’t have last 6 months, nevermind the rest of their lives. Hera being Mitochondrial Eve made me fairly angry too.

You guys are nuts. I loved the ending. I can’t see how you can complain about a show that “lived” by the prophecies of their fraking gods, and finished up nicely with their prophecies coming true. It was a perfect ending to the show(you know, ending). I thought the part when Baltar and Caprica 6 met with the “gods” of their own image was a priceless moment.
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Burn notice White collar In plain sight Lost girl Being human on syfy Army wives The lying game Ringer Against the wall Teen wolf Once upon a time Grimm Suburgatory Lab rats Vampire diaries Royal pains Unforgettable NCIS NCIS:Los Angeles Haven Rizzoli & Isles Hawaii five-O re do Covert affairs Drop dead diva Doctor who re do Leverage My babysitter’s a vampire Gigolos Dexter United states of tara Sister wives Sons of anarchy Securt diary of a call girl The nine lives of chloe king All american muslim Charlie’s angels re do Forever Knight Crossing jordan Moonlight True blood Blood ties

Not your favorites - I’m just a bit curious as to what you might be watching this season.

My tastes are pretty much all over the place. :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m watching:

The Americans
Bunheads
Castle
The Client List
Continuum
Elementary
The Following
Golden Boy
Hawaii Five-0
Lost Girl
Once Upon A Time
Red Widow
Ripper Street
Smash
Star Wars: The Clone Wars
Vegas
Vikings (Love this one!)
Zero Hour (Well, I was)

And I shall have to see what catches my fancy once Spring offers some new shows.

RAI EDIT: The guy who owns right to the Hollywood pic asked us to take it down. Sorry dude!

The Place For All Things About Classic Films and Hollwood on TAN!
Have a favorite movie? Wanna share a story about your favorite director or actor from classic films? Do you have strong opinions on the Hay’s Production Code? The, this is the place for you!

There are some rules for this thread, so please read before posting: [spoiler]

  1. I am limiting this thread to movies from 1989 and earlier. No films from the 90’s, 2000’s, or 2010’s. Yes, there were some “classic” or “memorable” movies in the 90’s, but I can’t consider films that are only 20 years old to be true classics, at least not yet. :wink:

  2. Be respectful of other’s opinions. Don’t attack or name call because someone disagrees with your opinion of a film,actor, or event.

  3. This thread is open to all genres of film, whether it be drama, action/adventure, action, adventure, sci-fi etc. All movies are welcome here.

  4. When posting about a movie, please try to include a picture of the film poster and, if possible, a trailer. (YouTube has a huge selection of classic movie trailers FYI.)

  5. ** I WILL NOT TOLERATE SPAMMING IN THIS THREAD!** We all know there are some people here who just post pics and clips to up their post count. This thread is not the place for that. When you post about something, be thoughtful and thorough in your posts. Please no pics with one liners, or “This looks interesting.” There are tons of other threads on this website to up your count, so please use them.

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I’ll start off by posting about one of my all time favorite black and white films.

[size=5]All About Eve[/size]

Ranked by AFI as the 16th best American film of all time, All About Eve stars Bette Davis as the successful, but aging actress Margot Channing. One day Margot meets the beautiful and young Eve Harrington, outside one of her Broadway performances. Eve claims to be a huge fan of Margot, who quickly takes her under her wing. Eventually, Eve moves in and becomes her personal assistant. Little does Margot suspect that Eve is actually working to undermine her and steal her spotlight.

Fun Facts
All About Eve set a record for number of Oscar nominations, receiving 14 total. It was a record that was expected to never be broken, as in 1950, there were separate categories for color and black and white films. Ultimately, Titanic would break the record in 1997.

All About Eve won a total of 6 Academy Awards, including Best Picture of 1950. It would loose all the major acting categories that year however. Only George Sanders would win for his portrayal of Addison Dewitt.

Despite the movie being considered by many to be Bette Davis’ trademark performance, she was not originally cast for the lead. Claudette Colbert was originally planned to play Margot, but a severe back injury prior to filming forced her to step down.

Classic Lines

“Fasten your seat belts. It’s going to be a bumpy night.” - Margot Channing

Trailers/Clips

http://www.amazon.com/All-About-Eve-Blu-ray-Book/dp/B004DTLK6W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338260237&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/All-About-Eve-Bette-Davis/dp/B00006RCO1/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1338258640&sr=8-3

It’s hard to talk about All About Eve, without mentioning it’s cross town rival that year.

[left][size=5]Sunset Boulevard[/size][/left]

Ranked by AFi as the 12th Best Movie of the 20th Century, Sunset Boulevard tells the story of struggling screenwriter Joe Gillis. After failing to sell a script to Paramount Pictures, Gillis finds himself breaking down in front of an old Hollywood mansion. When he enters the house to use the phone, he meets aging, silent film actress Norma Desmond. This small turn of events would have permanent and lasting effects on his life, as he is pulled into Norma’s world.

Fun Facts

The lead role of Norma Desmond was played by Gloria Swanson, who was actually retired at the time. Billy Wilder and Charles Brackett were able to convince her to come out of retirement for one last role at the studio where she became a star, Paramount.

The character of Norma Desmond is said to be have inspired by silent movie queen Norma Talmadge, who was wildly popular and wealthy during the 1920’s. Norma is perhaps best remembered for starting the tradition of leaving imprints at Grauman’s Chinese Theater, when she accidentally stepped in wet cement outside the theater.

Gloria Swanson was chagrined at the notion of submitting to a screen test, saying she had “made twenty films for Paramount. Why do they want me to audition?” Her reaction was later echoed in the screenplay when Norma Desmond declares, “without me there wouldn’t be any Paramount.”

In an effort to keep the full details of the story from Paramount Pictures and avoid the restrictive censorship of the Breen Code, they submitted the script a few pages at a time. The Breen Office insisted certain lines be rewritten, such as Gillis’s “I’m up that creek and I need a job,” which became “I’m over a barrel. I need a job.” Paramount executives thought Wilder was adapting a story called A Can of Beans (which did not exist) and allowed him relative freedom to proceed as he saw fit. Only the first third of the script was written when filming began in early May 1949, and Wilder was unsure how the film would end. This would be a practice that Wilder would use in later films for Paramount, such as Sabrina.

Famous Quotes

“All right Mr. Demille. I’m ready for my closeup.” - Norma Desmond (This is one of the most misquote film lines of all time.)

“I am big. It’s the pictures that got small.” - Norma Desmond

Trailers/Clips

http://www.amazon.com/Sunset-Boulevard-Centennial-William-Holden/dp/B001EXE2ZG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1338262655&sr=8-2


You’re including '80s movies as “classics”??
SUCH SACRILIGE!
-just poking fun-

One of my all-time favorite classic movies:

[quote]Charade is a 1963 American film directed by Stanley Donen, written by Peter Stone and Marc Behm, and starring Cary Grant and Audrey Hepburn. The movie also features Walter Matthau, James Coburn, George Kennedy, Dominique Minot, Ned Glass, and Jacques Marin. It spans four genres: suspense thriller, romance, chick flick and comedy. Because Universal Pictures published the movie with an invalid copyright notice, the film entered the public domain in the United States immediately upon its release.

The film is notable for its screenplay, especially the repartee between Grant and Hepburn, for having been filmed on location in Paris, for Henry Mancini’s score and theme song, and for the animated titles by Maurice Binder. Charade has received generally positive reviews from critics, and was additionally noted to contain influences of genres such as whodunit, screwball and spy thriller; it has also been referred to as “the best Hitchcock movie that Hitchcock never made.”[/quote]

This has always been one of my favorite films. The interplay between the older Cary Grant character and the younger Audrey Hepburn character is a delight. The dialog is sparkling. The plot twists are breathtaking. I think it is a virtually perfect movie.

I can’t remember the first time I saw it, but i know it had to be on television as I was only 10 when it came out, so it would not be a movie I would have seen in its first run. Charade is what I call a “sticky” movie. I can be looking for another program on another channel but if I come across Charade, I have to stop and watch it to the end. It also has one of the funniest last lines I have ever heard. Watch it here:

Here’s another one I had to stick in here.
I can’t even begin to describe how much I love this movie.

[size=5]Anne of the Thousand Days (1969)[/size]

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[size=5]Watch Anne of the Thousand Days | Prime Video

Richard Burton as King Henry VIII
Geneviève Bujold as Anne Boleyn

From IMDB

[quote]Plot Summary:
Based on the Broadway play by Maxwell Anderson, “Anne of the Thousand Days” is a sympathetic account of the rise and fall of the beautiful and ambitious Anne Boleyn (Genevieve Bujold) who becomes the second wife of the tyrannical King Henry VIII (Richard Burton). Engaged to another man, Anne attempts to avoid the king’s attention and refuses to become his mistress, but her betrothal is broken-off by Henry’s corrupt but brilliant chief minister (Anthony Quayle). Vowing vengeance, Anne returns to the court, where Henry eventually proposes marriage and promises to divorce his aging Spanish wife (Irene Papas). Anne accepts and soon becomes the most powerful and wealthiest woman in the country, rewarding her allies and punishing her enemies. After some years, she and Henry finally marry, but her world slowly begins to collapse when she fails to give birth to the son her husband so desperately wants and he openly flaunts his mistresses in her face. Anne’s enemies move against her, concocting a sensational set of lies to destroy her and they triumph in a brutally unfair show-trial which ends Anne’s thousand-day reign as queen of England.[/quote]

One of my favorite clips.

[video width=425 height=344 type=youtube]jvPOGmfdtCQ[/video]

Now this is a thread I can get in to! Great idea Cody! :slight_smile:
All of the above are among my favorites and I will enjoy sharing! It’s hard to have a top list when it comes to these movies, but this is one of my all time favorites -

[size=5]The Red Shoes (1948)[/size]

*The Red Shoes (1948) is a British feature film about a ballet dancer, written, directed and produced by the team of Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger, known collectively as The Archers. The movie employs the story within a story device, being about a young ballerina who joins an established ballet company and becomes the lead dancer in a new ballet called The Red Shoes, itself based on the fairy tale “The Red Shoes” by Hans Christian Andersen. The film stars Moira Shearer, Anton Walbrook and Marius Goring and features Robert Helpmann, Léonide Massine and Ludmilla Tchérina, renowned dancers from the ballet world, as well as Esmond Knight and Albert Basserman. It has original music by Brian Easdale and cinematography by Jack Cardiff, and is well regarded for its creative use of Technicolor. Filmmakers such as Brian De Palma and Martin Scorsese have named it one of their all time favorite films.

Although loosely based on the Andersen story, it was also said to have been inspired by the real-life meeting of Sergei Diaghilev with the British ballerina Diana Gould. Diaghilev asked her to join his company, but he died before she could do so. Diana Gould later became the second wife of Yehudi Menuhin.
(from Wiki)*

###The Children’s Hour

This 1961 film, released by United Artists, was based upon a play written by Lillian Hellman, which in turn was based upon the true story of two Scottish school teachers. When a young girl is upset about her punishment at school, she starts a malicious rumor about the two female teachers (played by Audrey Hepburn and Shirley MacLaine). The rumor spreads quickly and destroys the women’s lives, resulting in the ultimate tragedy. It’s an excellent tale of how destructive lies can be.

**Fun Facts**

The film was initially made in 1936 as These Three, but due to the Haye’s Production Code in effect at the time, the plot line involving the lesbian rumor was removed. It was instead replaced with one involving a rumor of a love affair and triangle between three teachers.

The film was released in the UK as The Loudest Whisper.

When the play initially opened in New York, mentioning homosexuality on stage was illegal. However, police and officials overlooked it and allowed the play to continue after it received praise from critics.

The story and play were inspired by the true story of two Scottish female teachers who similarly found their lives destroyed when a student started a rumor of the two being in a lesbian relationship.

**Trailers/Clips**

The Children's Hour (La Calumnia) S.MacLaine & A.Hepburn - YouTube

From the documentary “The Celluloid Closet”, with commentary by Shirley MacLaine.

Susie Bright on "The Children's Hour" - YouTube

Ah… I saw the Children’s Hour. There was a time when I went on an Audrey Hepburn kick. I saw The Children’s Hour, My Fair Lady, How to Steal a Million, Sabrina, War and Peace, Charade, Breakfast at Tiffany’s, Wait Until Dark and Two for the Road. I think that’s it.

I haven’t seen Breakfast at Tiffany’s yet, but I did see Sabrina at a local theater a few weeks back. They do a thing called “Cinebrunch” where you get to watch a classic film and they provide breakfast goods. It’s an old one screen theater, but it’s very nice.

I’ve also seen Wait Until Dark, which was very good as well. iTunes is an excellent place to rent older films.

what is this I don’t even

The Children’s Hour is another excellent movie! I too am a great fan of Audrey Hepburn. Have either of you seen Funny Face? Another good one!

Here is one of my favorite musicals. Of course there have been many versions of this story.

[size=5]The King and I (1956)[/size]

The King and I is a 1956 musical film made by 20th Century Fox, directed by Walter Lang and produced by Charles Brackett and Darryl F. Zanuck. The screenplay by Ernest Lehman is based on the Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein II musical The King and I, based in turn on the book Anna and the King of Siam by Margaret Landon. The plot comes from the story written by Anna Leonowens, who became school teacher to the children of King Mongkut of Siam in the early 1860s. Leonowens’ story was autobiographical, although a recent biographer has uncovered substantial inaccuracies and fabrications. (from Wiki)

I also love the Siamese version of Uncle Tom’s Cabin in this movie and the statement it made about slavery in Siam. The ballet was beautiful and the message was to the point.

There was also a 1946 dramatic version that I enjoyed.

[size=5]Anna and the King of Siam (1946)[/size]

*Anna and the King of Siam is a 1946 drama film directed by John Cromwell. An adaptation of the 1944 book by Margaret Landon, it was based on the diaries of Anna Leonowens, a British governess in the Royal Court of Siam (now modern Thailand) during the 1860s. Darryl F. Zanuck read Landon’s book in galleys and immediately bought the film rights. The story mainly concerns the culture clash of the Imperialist Victorian values of the British Empire with the autocratic rule of Siam’s King Mongkut. The successful film starred Rex Harrison as the king and Irene Dunne as Anna. At the 19th Academy Awards ceremony, the film received two Oscars; for Best Cinematography and Best Art Direction (Lyle R. Wheeler, William S. Darling, Thomas Little, Frank E. Hughes).

The story was later adapted by Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein II for a 1951 stage musical and subsequent 1956 film. American film director Andy Tennant remade the film in 1999 as Anna and the King with Jodie Foster and Chow Yun-fat.

The portrayal of Tuptim in Anna and the King of Siam is considerably less sympathetic than in the musical version The King and I and the 1999 Anna and the King. There is a definite animosity between Tuptim and Anna in the 1946 film. (from Wiki)*