Daisuki to Stream Sword Art Online II Anime
posted on 2014-07-01 23:30 EDT
I figured as much: CR servers are being strained right now due to SAOII premier, adjust viewing schedules accordinglyâŚ
Update: Itâs also on at Daisuki so go there if you canât watch on CR
I ran into problems as well. That was fun. :huh:
Iâll be watching it with my roommate later myself.
The problem is that Iâd like to watch stuff other than SAOII, but SAO is holding me back. 
Did this happen with the most popular shows of the last few seasons or is SAOII truly in a league of its own here?
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I liked a bit of the world in game 1 with the NervGear (Nerv really? Shinji and the EVAâs and Angels going to appear?). The world for game 2 was better. What do we learn from SAOI? stop playing VR games and you live longer. what is SAOII about? People dying playing VR games. Hello, plothole! Sorry Kirito, jsut did your job for you. Get a holographic projector and do things like a Wii does where no actual connection to the brain. all the VR game deaths are taken care of. no reason to watch beyond episode 1 of Bullets of Bullets or whatever this game is.
Now way is this crap better tha the original .//hack, only Log Horizon gets into the âworldâ and game itself better that .//hack. SAO is just the pokemon of this genre. Everyone has heard about it, and it just spreads like a virus⌠sounds about like the same problems this series has. The girl canât die because then Kirito wouldnât be involved, so what really is to expect form this show? They play a game, solve the mystery, no main character is harmed really, on to next game where people dieâŚwash, rinse, repeat.
Sword Art Online Producer Shinichiro Kashiwada to Attend Otakon
posted on 2014-07-24 12:20 EDT
Associate producer for Madoka Magica, Oreimo attends August event
âSword Art Onlineâ Hug Pillow and âIs The Order A Rabbit?â Bed Sheets Coming to Comiket
July 25, 2014 3:05pm CDT
Itâs time for some more jealousy-inducing items planned for this summerâs event
We have a female interest (Subaru)
We have an investigator (Bear)
We have a random girl that acts like a kid (Blackrose/Mimiru)
We have in episode 3 no in world action at all until I stopped watching, just real worldâŚ
Why isnât this named .//hack Rip-off?
Too much time in the real world for this whole series, that I no longer care. SAOII, dropped. If I wanted to watch real world investigating anime I would find to watch Detective Conan, QED, Persona 4, etc.
Log Horizon which stays in an interesting game world rather than flip to boring, who gives a $**+ real fiction world, is the only inheritor of what .//hack started with the MMO genre. The funding for this crap needs to be pulled and the lonely kids that get all goo-goo over the guy and girl need some mental health help.
This show is garbage. -5 of 5
Thatâs funny because I found the real world stuff to be important to the backstory as a whole. You see how Kazuto is adjusting after risking his life twice in VMMOs, and you get why Sinon is so hung up about guns and that GGO is a kind of therapy for her. ALL of Ep 4 takes place in GGO as Kirito sets up his account and gets his initial set of gear with Sinonâs help.
Since SAO2 will be 24 episodes donât you think it only being 4 episodes in is a little early to be comparing to .//hack?
No, like the back story mentioned above you,the whole SAOI existed and was nothing but a .//hack rip-off. it is the same series, same world, just a 3rd game now.
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- SAO
- ??? (2nd game they destoyed)
- ??? (game there were in in episode 2)
- Bullet of Bullets game
and i stopped 3 minutes into episode 3, not even getting to 4.
,//hack had its own problems like needing to do EVERYTHING in EVERY form of media to follow it.
- Sign (Tsubasa, Subaru, BT, Bear, Helba, Blackrose) (anime)
- PS2 games (Kite, Maho {who looks like Chief from Log Horizon}, Mimiru {a Blackrose clone}) (video game+anime on extra DVDs to finish .//hack Sign)
- Legend of Twilight (Kite avatar as a gift) (anime)
there was some manga in there somewhere to connect parts
4. Roots (anime)
5. GU (anime? manga?)
The World was always the same in .hack, but SAO is pretty much the same connect. virtual world video game traps you in some way.
in both series âThe Worldâ is in danger and the cause is the virtual world MMO video game and people are potentially dying because of it. SAOII is jsut SAOI but a new game and the protagonists arent the ones trapped, but jsut there to keep the love story running for those that want the love story.
Again, this is why Log Horizon differs since it is not purely an âescape from the gameâ series.
- it isnt a VR game
- There isnât some big bad controlling the game (yet) trying to kill off the real world players
- the players arenât dying in the real world.
- there isnât a cover-up of some bad programming that caused the players to get trapped (this is the premise of both .hack and SAO)
SAOI/II is so much the same as .hack except it adds some melodramatic love story to gimp the actual story it is more like an eHarmony commercial. âLook how these two found love onlyâ, mixed with a bit of Stephen King â, but can they survive the game to meet in the real world of will the game kill them first?â
It has been done, and better. Sex, the love triangle, etc does not make it for mature or new audiences, it is the same as .hack, ergo a rip-off, and the story has been told already if you saw all of .hack. The only thing new is the FPS in SAOII and the hero hasnât done squat about it and that is what he proclaims to want to do with his life is to make virtual safe, yet he sits on his ass too timid to do anything that he has already done twice before.
SAO he played the role of the hero in both virtual world games. SAOII he is playing the anti-hero directly (he was in SAO as well, but he didnât act like it since he took the hero reins and mantle up himself). the anti-hero just doesnât fit for him to switch to with his ultimate goal in mind of making the virtual safe for the real world to bring his âdaughterâ to the real world. he made his choices to make virtual world safe, and did it twice before. both times for love. now a 3rd time he refuses. it is time for him to have the balls to stand by his convictions and do what he decided to do rather than become an emo coward like Sasuke Uchiha in the Forest of Death when he first meets Orochimaru.
The Chekovâs gun it there even before the 1si episode of SAOII begins and as it begins. The characters are the same and the virtual world and real world need saving. The hero doesnât get a chance to wait to pull the trigger, because it was already pulled (literally by Death Gun), and now the hero must step up. As Spock so correctly put it, âThe needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.â
Regardless of similarities, trashing oneâs work over satisfaction is a little harsh donât you think? Theyâre still two different story premises with different character mentalities just like Log Horizon.
I can kinda see why Kirito keeps going back into these games as he got a taste of âdivinityâ in SAO when the gameâs creator, for some reason, decided to make him like Neo in The Matrix.
However, I canât see why anyone else would go into a game like the one that a nutjob used to kill scores of people or why these games would be allowed to exist legally.
âŚI donât believe that I can agree with Kirito being an anti-hero.
[details=spoiler]it is long past due that this rip-off nonsense be trashed so it stops. The diferences are so few in SAO from .hack, it is jsut a retelling that is worse than the Russel Crowe Robin Hood.
IT is time people stop piggy-backing off other ideas, and come up with new ones. Sadly many people will think SAO is the originator, because there is jsut so much rip-off now people have got complacent with entertainment like everything else.[/details]
[details=spoiler]There are the exact same story. Person tapped in world and risk of death because they are trapped in virtual game world.
love story evolves from game world interaction
real world people trying to solve the problem.
Paychology of the real world being affected by the virtual world.
Sociology aspects of the virtual world coming to the real world.
This is all in .hack for over a decade. What is new in SAO? They have a virtual kid with the little fairy spirte thing, and they now have a non sword-and-soircery game but instead it is an FPS. That is all that is different.
Log Horizon it isnât about the real world, it isnt a virtual reality game (not that I have seen since it looks like a WoW type game), Shiro isnât falling in love with anyone (Hell he barely really trusts anyone!), some evil programmer that trapped them in the game like Spy Kids 3: Game Over. Log Horizon focuses on the world itself, literally it is acting as another world, like the Pac Man cartoon. What happens if the game world was real, like TRON.
NGNL also the become trapped in a real other world, jsut like the sub-world in Persona 4.
There is NOTHING new about SAOI/II that .hack didnât already do except the writer and the art direction. Maybe, just maybe the fact that the internet has grown and unlike .hack they can really easily tell who is in the world and donât have to guess and track down Tsubasa.
Log Horizon even makes an homage to .hack since the brother and sister are like Tsubasa and Subaru when one wheels the other around in their wheelchair. (again see Spy Kids 3 and Ricardoâs character of Grandpa). So the magnitude of trapped players in SAO and Log Horizon are similar, but that also gives SAO the missing component of not being able to figure out what is going on since it was only 1 person in .hack.[/details]
[details=spoiler]Must save the trapped people, this is the character mentality of both .hack and SAO. Log Horizon is MUST LIVE! The game world has become a real world as seen when they meet the farmer NPC that gains a backstory and his grandkids love cookies that they have never heard of before.
.hack and SAO are both about escaping with your life, while Log Horizon is about just getting by and worrying about the rest later. You cannot help others until you can help yourself, and you cannot help yourself until you know what you are dealing with. It isnât as simple in Log Horizon to just unplug someone and hope they donât die from the VR experience because there is no such thing. My greatest fear is the end turns into a .hack rip-off, but currently it isnât even trying to go in that direction and Log Horizon is about what RPGs and MMOs (that are all takes on D&D) are really about. Exploring the world you are in through the eyes of your character, and just trying to cohabitate and survive.
Log Horizon then is a rip-off of D&D with the trapped inside video game aspect as opposed to trapped inside tabletop game, except D&D the RPG didnât exist in the world of the D&D cartoon, it was only an amusement park roller coaster. So both are like Sliders, as well as NGNL is. you are literally trapped for an unknown reason you can now feel the world and are a part of it.
@CB, he has talked with the investigator person several times and has yet agreed to go in to help. Sure he almost died twice already, but he is an anti-hero in SAOII because he doesnât want to be the hero anymore, it is being forced upon him by sloppy writing.[/details]
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it is long past due that this rip-off nonsense be trashed so it stops. The diferences are so few in SAO from .hack, it is jsut a retelling that is worse than the Russel Crowe Robin Hood.
IT is time people stop piggy-backing off other ideas, and come up with new ones. Sadly many people will think SAO is the originator, because there is jsut so much rip-off now people have got complacent with entertainment like everything else. [/details] [/quote]
Itâs amusing that you bring this up, since youâre using it to bash on SAO.
However, SAO technically did come before .hack, as Kawahara started writing SAO in Fall of 2001, while .hack didnât start getting released until Spring 2002.
âRipoff, retelling, rebootââŚblah, blah, blah. Why so shocked, it happens here in the west, why not in Japan. If it works for harems, mecha, and fantasy shows, why not in the trapped in a fantay/VR world as well. Works in the U.S.:
Tron
Dungeons & Dragons
King Arthur and the Knights of Justice
Harsh Realm
The Matrix
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[quote=âshadzarâ][details=spoiler]
it is long past due that this rip-off nonsense be trashed so it stops. The diferences are so few in SAO from .hack, it is jsut a retelling that is worse than the Russel Crowe Robin Hood.
IT is time people stop piggy-backing off other ideas, and come up with new ones. Sadly many people will think SAO is the originator, because there is jsut so much rip-off now people have got complacent with entertainment like everything else. [/details] [/quote]
Itâs amusing that you bring this up, since youâre using it to bash on SAO.
However, SAO technically did come before .hack, as Kawahara started writing SAO in Fall of 2001, while .hack didnât start getting released until Spring 2002.[/quote]
You think it takes more time for a book than an anime? How many [strike]spams do you flood the forums with on shows[/strike] reports on anime do you make to know how long it takes to develop a series? .hack came out in April 02, but do you think it only began in March 02 or something?
Bandai started work on .hack in early 2000 to actually create âThe Worldâ, the game in which .hack takes place in.
Reki Kawahara wrote the first volume of SAO in 2002 as a competition entry for ASCII Media Worksâ Dengeki Game Novel Prize.
Sorry, .hack predates it. Doesnât say they didnât mutally exclusively come up with MMO story ideas, but .hack came first, and SAO took anothr 8 years before it even was brought to an anime. I bet like Harry Potter, that later volumes of SAO after the first were influenced heavily by .hack.
funny how facts elude some people. I wouldnât have said it wa a rip-off if I didnât have my dates down.
@tonka, because it is tired and old. copyright has become the greatest barrier to original creation so people jsut steal themes and ideas and go from there. there isnât many more original movies these days, jsut trying to capitalize off the same old thing.
Harem anime, really? you think that is just rip-offs?well it is, of every J-porn dating game there ever was, which was a rip-off of Elvira concept text game.
Guy ha many girls, tries to save the world. but harem isnât a genre or shouldnât be, it is a sub-genre often to other genres. My Sister is Among them is the classic school harem, but IS adds harem into mecha, but in the case of IS, he isnât trying to choose anyone, where in Samurai Bride he wants EVERYONE! harem is an overused concept to be sure, but not many are made with the harem at the focus like My Sister is Among them and the like.
My problem is why are people so satisfied with the same thing over and over again? Just watch the one you have if that is what you want.
Take Baby Steps as opposed to Prince of Tennis. Sure both are about tennis, but in BS Maruo finds tennis on accident, and in PoT Ryonu is supposed to be the tennis god of his age from the beginning. they are taking vastly different paths unlike SAO which takes the same path and has much of the same elements as .hack.
can we jsut stop the change for the sake of change because people are bored with the same old thing so rehashing it or tweaking it to nothing better, just different and actually create something NEW and interesting because of its newness without trying to be something old, but just being itself?
Didnât the knock-off Rubicâs Cube variants jsut show people are going to get tired of that same old same old crap after a shot while? When was the last time you saw a Tamagutchi or Giga-pet or something like that?
These are novelties and fads, and overusing them like âtrapped in virtual world and might dieâ can only get old. you can youtube the death of the grunty and see .hack right there for what many people claim SAO has but .hack lacks. Even today I saw a commercial where they are trying to say gaming is a psychological disorder so they made a movie bout it coming out this fall or something. :dry:
.hack already did this too!
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You think it takes more time for a book than an anime? How many reports on anime do you make to know how long it takes to develop a series? .hack came out in April 02, but do you think it only began in March 02 or something?
Bandai started work on .hack in early 2000 to actually create âThe Worldâ, the game in which .hack takes place in.
Reki Kawahara wrote the first volume of SAO in 2002 as a competition entry for ASCII Media Worksâ Dengeki Game Novel Prize.
Sorry, .hack predates it. Doesnât say they didnât mutally exclusively come up with MMO story ideas, but .hack came first, and SAO took anothr 8 years before it even was brought to an anime. I bet like Harry Potter, that later volumes of SAO after the first were influenced heavily by .hack.
funny how facts elude some people. I wouldnât have said it wa a rip-off if I didnât have my dates down. [/quote]
As a person who keeps up on series and news about them, Iâm well aware of how long it takes to produce an anime.
Which also make me well aware that most information on story elements and plot arenât made publicly available for original anime until a few months before it airs.
Conceptually, .hack predates SAO.
However, the actual âusefulâ information that could have been âstolenâ from .hack by Kawahara for SAO, wasnât even made publicly available before he started actually writing SAO. So saying that SAO in and of itself is just a rip-off of .hack is an argumentative cop-out.
Iâm perfectly fine with you not liking SAO, a lot of people donât.
Itâs a rather polarizing series, itâs either well liked or highly hated.
Iâm just rather amused that you put so much effort into this without quite thinking it all the way through.
AS they say, ignorance is bliss, and living in your closet you must be most blissful.
Battleship and that other movie came out at the same time. Coincidence? Hollywood often has similar movies coming out at the same time. Do you really think this is a coincidence? Do you think Japan is not also accustomed to this kind of thing?
Are you so dumb as to think that Harry Potter was NOT influenced by things that came before? JKR can claim that she had never seen this or read that before, but whee is the proof?
Occamâs razor can make the one using it very sharp. 
It states that SAO later volumes that came out years after SIGN aired and the video game series had been completed, obviously takes elements from it to build on popularity.
Next you would try to have me believe that BTOOOM! wasnât a knock-off of Battle Royale?
You would also likely try to convince me that Dorkness Rising or whatever that nonsense it was created D&D with 3rd edition and WotC.
So sick of stupid kids that act like know-it-alls when they know nothing of the past and claim omnipotence because they are into all the popular stuff just because they are lemmings following fads off the end of a cliff.
