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I’m not taking it back I hate when companies lie and believe they should be held to their word, just because the industry is in trouble is no reason to allow lies.
We are never going to agree on this and I don’t think we can unless if the industry fixes itself, something it has started to do, look at Eden of the East, it finished last month and got licensed, now that was unheard of just a year and a half ago. Anime is working on fixing itself and the ball is now in our “fans” court, we have to do some things but that doesn’t mean the industry is allowed to be let off of stuff.[/quote]
[details=collapsing great wall of text]And no one is letting them off the hook, here or in other sites. Notice how almost no one is praising Bandai for that change of strategy with the content production, other than the unique method of announcement and how fast they are working to react to the market. However, lies isn’t the correct term many of us would use. It’s far too simplistic, and black and white. The real world operates in many shades of grey. So my and other long time anime fans who are and have been supporting the industry’s view is… Bandai talked about what they were doing at the time, plans change, situations change. The point is they are not swearing an oath here or writing a Bible. Fans have been unrelenting in their demand to find out every single granule of information… so companies like Bandai clue them in on what their plans are. The shit hit the fan and Bandai had to readjust. It’s as simple as that.
Fans can’t have their cake and eat it too. They want up to the minute information about everything, they get it; but when things change they only want to know about it when it’s official and certain and… the only way for that is when it is Out the door. So they only want it when it suits their needs? Can’t have it both ways, fans are not singular entities, some just want to know what’s going on, while some build expectations…
Again, no one is suggesting to praise Bandai about it, no one has. But the difference between accepting the new reality of the economy and the industry vs crying and complaining about it (But mommy you promised me a Christmas gift WAAAAAAAAAAAH. I don’t care you lost your job and are broke, you promised!!!) about those evil companies is a huge difference of philosophical ideas between not only you and I here, but it is also the topic of contention that has been raging in the Anime community for a while now.
All this hoopla does only one thing, regardless of what you or I think… It makes companies shut up and not tell us what’s going on anymore. This is fact. This is why Bandai released Kannagi the way it did… no lead in, no room for fans to expect, or complain. So now lots of titles we want will be in long limbo status until it’s nearly out the door. Kannagi is an example now where companies not talking to us about anything is now successful, vs Hayate which built fan expectations only for people constantly complain about it. The future means less and less information for us, especially since if you compare the reaction between this and Hayate… keeping quiet worked.
As for your last part, that’s not really indicative of fixing itself. While it’s a good step in expediting the problem gap, it’s also indicative of the market being so bad that the Japanese are desperate… Besides these fast announcements are possible because it’s going to take a long time to eventually be released here, in 010. Unheard of? No, but it is rare - not as much nowadays though (the gap will continue to shrink, especially due to sub-only releases with production being a lot faster without dubs). ADV licensed and released WOWOW/Production IG’s Le Chevalier D’Eon while it was still near beginning and airing in Japan - P IG works faster in bridging the licensing gap than some companies. 
It’s not a paradigm shift, not yet.[/details][/quote]
That line about the kid is really going to bug me because it is pretty appropiate.
As for the fact that Jaopanese getting desperate is bad, why, it is a sad truth…
The better something is for the customers the worse it is for the company. Lower prices are good for customers bad for the companies.
I believe the gap is really the biggest thing the industry had to fix, they have and in about 5 years that will really benefit them, they may have lost this group of fans, but the next group will just choose the legal alternative because it will be easier to find, especially if all the groups link to it from their sites and have front page stuff on youtube, like they do now.
