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[quote]Genres: drama, romance, supernatural
Themes: amnesia, Harem, moe
Objectionable content: Significant
Plot Summary: Changing schools is something Yuuchi is accustomed to, due to his parent’s profession, and with their recent venture to Africa, he is returning to his aunt’s home after 7 years. The time that has passed since his last visit has faded his memories of the people he knew, and the ties that bonded them to him, including his cousin Nayuki. Slowly those people, coincidently all being girls, find their way back to him. However, time has passed and things have happened in their own lives that sets the tone for the series. Secrets that are coming to surface, and memories that are returning to not only Yuuichi, but to those surrounding him.
Number of episodes: 13
Vintage: 2002-01-30 to 2002-03-27[/quote]
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[quote]Genres: drama, romance, supernatural
Themes: bishojo, moe, school
Objectionable content: Significant
Plot Summary: Yuichi Aizawa returns to this city after seven years. In his childhood, he often visited it, but something happend in the past which caused him to block out his memories of the events of seven years ago. On the day after he gets settled in, he meets a girl carrying a backpack with wings on it. Her name is Tsukimiya Ayu and he begins to recall the memories he had lost.
Number of episodes: 24
**Vintage: 2006-10-05 to 2007-03-15[/quote]
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Kanon Kazahana (special) Vintage: 2003-05-03

WoW No one commented on this one yet? Well I’ve been watching it (again, first saw it on TAN VOD) on Funi’s video portal. It’s a really good show. Nothing mind blowing but I like it. Not sure why it get’s all the hate. Then again not sure why people worship this either. I mean it’s a good show, but nothing mind blowing.

Anyway it’s a solid drama, that actually makes me laugh at moments. Very cute, and the characters are interesting. I like the music, it’s very understated, but defined. Nice touch. And the artwork is gorgeous. Really it’s so frigen beautiful, ever single scene. It’s flawed, but hey I like it despite the problems. The dub is AMAZING though. ADV really outdid themselves with this one. One of my favorite dubs from them. Now THIS is why I love dubs.

It depends on the community where there’s moe hate. But like anything that’s really popular, there’ll always be a segment of strong dislike.

Yeah but then why am I the only to hate FMA :stuck_out_tongue: ?

Kidding. I know what you mean. Some places are more opposed to these “moe” shows then others. But in my opinion it doesn’t diserve the hate it gets. Not a masterpeice, not trying to be a masterpeice, but for a drama I enjoy it. And it;s very cute. I don’t think it’s trying to offend anyone, it’s just a nice little show. And that’s how I enjoy it. This is something I plan on buying. Been planning on it for awhile…since it came to TAN VOD…yeah it’s been awhile.

Also Jessica Boone, Jessica Boone, Jessica Boone. I really love her in this. Perhaps my favorite role for her. Brittney Karbowski is amazing as well. Patton’s always good at these types of leads so no problems there. And Greg Aryes feels very “real” here. He’s not character acting (which he’s quite good at), it’s more authentic. I like him like this sometimes, and here he’s spot on. Very funny at times.

How did you like the show and the dub Dragoon?

Watched this one about five times and its one of my favorites. I think they did a great job on the dub. It really pulls on the heart strings.

[details=spoiler]What happens to Makoto really got to me. Seeing her deteriorate while Yuichi tries to keep her happy. Also the look on Mai face when she saw Sayuri in a pool of blood. Was so glad when it turned out Ayu was alive. I was sure she was dead from all the clues.

I do wonder what the heck was in that jam? [/details]

That’s a complicated answer and one that I don’t have the answer for. I mean there’s stuff like Miyazaki (which I know you hate), Disney, etc that have a lot of detractors but they are not as passionate as the other side. Moe brings passion to both sides. Personally I think there’s much to do about nothing over it and it’s getting tiring. Most of the Moe haters tend to be the oldschool people from the 80s/90s who miss where anime has gone - their era has ended as with anything time marches on.

As far as FMA you might share those feelings with Cody and PP. :wink:

Kanon I only saw like 2-3 eps of back in the day. I thought the dub was great with what I saw. But I’d need to see more to comment on it, a few episodes is just too little to get an accurate picture of it. ADV’s dub studio in the last period of their partnership with Sojitz was really firing on all cylinders with a lot of exceptional dubs. I liked NHK’s dub better but from what I’ve seen I can’t argue why Kanon won the Mania dubbies of 2008. One has to wonder how high ADV’s studios would have gone if that continued without the 2008 problems.

I may have started watching anime in the old school days but refuse to let that keep me from liking new anime. Have encountered fans on the net though who do hate anything just because its new. Think that is silly since there was garbage in the past and there will be great series in the future.

P.S. edited my last post in case you missed it.

I agree with you, otherwise I wouldn’t watch anime anymore. Romanticism exists in all time-frames, there’s always bad stuff no matter the era. :slight_smile:

On the other hand, PP and I have had many a long discussion over this, we feel in the last few years the damage to the industry and budget reductions has certainly taken their toll. In terms of sheer numbers to me there just aren’t as many interesting anime now as say in the boom days. Production quality in terms of animation and art have certainly increased dramatically over the last few years though, but everything else… not so much.

Some people are stuck in their old ways and are not happy with where the industry and culture is going so all they can do is just hate on the current trend. Whether they, I or anyone likes it or not though time marches on and in the end it’s all about money. Moe, but especially moe with storylines and styles that are trend-oriented to what Japanese consumers want now are continuing to sell breakthrough #s in Japan.

The west failed. Japan banked on the west for money with western-themed shows that weren’t shounen and in the last few years that didn’t pan out at all. So they’ve reverted to catering to their own market. I don’t see it ending anytime soon. Although it’ll be interesting to see what the next new thing will be.

Yeah I agree with you Dragoon that people are getting working up about nothing. ANd it is getting a little anoying. I love anime from the 90’s, but new anime is good too. There’s crap now, and crap back then. But I really think there’s so much amazing stuff out there, old and new. It’s silly to limit yourself. I don’t agree with the 90% of everything is crap either, Sturgeon’s Law or whatever. I think 90% of anime is great ;). Sure only 1% may be mindblowing, but in my opinion only 9% of stuff really suck. Most of everything is good to great.

Although I do get what your saying Dragoon, that since the Industry took a nose dive quilty all over the board has fallen a little bit. But this is kind of to be expected, and those who say “eh the downfall of the American market didn’t do much/won’t do much, there’s still tons of anime out there!!” sort of miss this point. Also during the boom days the studios were not as opposed to more expermeintal stuff, taking a risk (like Kino’s Journey for example), because they didn’t have to worry as much about titles not doing well. And there was also a chance that their more expermeintal show would do really well. And they also had the budget to make sure quilty was kept up throughout their shows. Now there seems to be mush less experimentation, they just create what they know will sell. They don’t have the money to go around and try new things all the time, they just have to create what they know will sell. Which is alright, your not ganna get terrible shows. But they will tend to fall into these more traditional series, that may be a little forgettable.

As for the dub, yes ADV’s last few dubs were really amazing. I also really loved NHK’s dub. Kanon is amazing as well though. And yeah it would have been interesting to see how well ADV’s dubs could have gotten if they didn’t have the problems in 2008. It’s hard to imagine better dubs, but they were really on a role there.

I always get Kanon confused with Air :huh: I was planning on giving it a miss since I don’t like either Air or Clannad, but I do like to at least watch an ep or two before forming an opinion.

Yeah I used to get confused with which one was Air and which one was Kanon too. But after watching the first few episodes a few times I know which one is which now lol. And I like(d) this one much more then Air. What I saw of Air was good, but this I liked a lot more. Still if you didn’t like Air, not sure if you’ll like this one too much lol. They have a lot in common. But it’s worth checking out I guess.

I expected some kind of label ,but that is just plain bad and cover ruining. Though considering this cost the same as one single use to you are getting what you paid for.


Ewww that label ruins the otherise nice cover. They should just release it cheap, with no label. Perhaps put a sticker on the shinkwrap? This is just ewww. I own their first thinpack so this is meaningless to me.

May be an ugly cover but its a cheap price for a good series. I went the expensive route getting the singles and the artbox when they came out.

“Uguu” :S

The cover itself was nice, but the label is hideous! :S I really think that anime companies need to stop the continual cheaper and cheaper re-releases every six months, especially when most of the titles end up being only found online anyway. Plus, in Funi’s case, the original box set always hits the bargain bin at the same time. So you can buy the first box set for even less.

These releases fail to get into places like Best Buy and only have very limited appeal on places like Amazon and Right Stuf. I really fail to see what these continous releases do, other than further devalue the product.

I see these released at FYE all the time. So they do get into some stores. It really depends though. I feel like they pick out of a hat what DVDs FYE gets and what ones they don’t.

Yes, but FYE only has at best, several 100 outlets left, and they’ve been closing a 100+ a year. That doesn’t change the fact that most of the releases do little more than simply devalue the product, and encourage fans to wait for an even cheaper release later down the line.

I bought the first set of RomeoXJuliet, but given Funi’s track record, I’m further ahead to wait for the complete set to come out, then buy the 2nd half out of the bargain bin.

Also when something goes to an FYE, it sits there. That’s it’s final resting place lol! I sware the anime doesn’t move in FYE, and they only rarely send things back. It’s a good thing for me, because I end up getting things that are a little older. But it can’t be great for the companies involved. And your right I do question the reasoning of releasing something every 6 months, just to sit on the shelves at a few FYEs anf Frys. If Best Buy won’t take it, why re-release it?

Also when something goes to an FYE, it sits there. That’s it’s final resting place lol! I sware the anime doesn’t move in FYE, and they only rarely send things back. It’s a good thing for me, because I end up getting things that are a little older. But it can’t be great for the companies involved. And your right I do question the reasoning of releasing something every 6 months, just to sit on the shelves at a few FYEs anf Frys. If Best Buy won’t take it, why re-release it?[/quote]

They sit there 'till a fine layer of dust accumulates on them. Then when you go in, you can write “buy me please” or “support the industry” on them. Or the occasional “clean me please” on them.

Maybe the whole re-release every 6 months thing is one of those weird japanese things written in the licensing agreement.