And yet you wonder why most of us dislike FLCL.
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Yeah but the difference is FLCL is actually a good show. FMA is not 
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Just my opinion 
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Considering I love Kurau, you will probably hate it, but you never knowâŚlol But ADV definitely gave it a rock solid dub. Monica Rial and Jessica Boone are both AMAZING! This is probably the series I was the saddest about from the whole Sojitz ordeal. 
I also love Rahxephon, though I have yet to watch the last few episodes. The animation is incredible for a show thatâs approaching 10 years old now. Itâs also got another rock solid dub, and one that is quite exceptional if you consider itâs age.
Never saw Tokyo Magnitude, or heard of it for that matter. Havenât seen and am not really interested in Jyu Oh Sei. I have seen Wolfâs Rain, and wasnât that impressed by it, and canât recall most of it. I could never really get into Eureka Seven, but it seems its a bit hard to watch if you havenât seen it from the beginning. I was just confused 
I also have very little interest in Soul Eater, but I will probably be checking it out at one point. Same story with Darker than Black.
Not a big fan of Fullmetal Alchemist either, though I donât hate it as much as you do. It has some definite flaws in it, and as far as animation goes, itâs actually one of BONES weaker projects. The only thing I did like about FMA, was Roy Mustang. He is easily one of the coolest characters in anime. If only he could have managed to kill that whiny blonde punk! 
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Re studios⌠Just be careful to realize of studio gradations and individuality of work. I mean a Gonzo original show is different from a show that Gonzo was tapped to animate by production companies - the same goes for Madhouse or BONES or any studio. Each studio has signature styles and strengths in terms of the actual animation though. But story and adaptation is something I think a lot of fans sometimes over-credit at times.
For the record I liked both FLCL and FMA. I donât think there is a connection there at all. FLCL is definitely not a mainstream show though and has a lot of eccentricities that can be odd or annoying or too wacky for some. For what it is, I found it to be a great show though - but something I never plan to watch again.
Like PP I personally found Excel Saga more fun and entertaining, certainly more clever with the humor. But FLCL canât be denied as one of the most marquee titles of this decade, at least on paper and on name value.
But again, not that Iâd ever watch it again - after seeing it many years ago when it came out here, that once was enough for me.
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This is very true. Sometimes animation studios get unfair praise or blame over things they ultimately have no control over. If TBS comes to you and says âWe want it done this wayâ, they really donât have much of a choice.
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Yeah, exactly⌠case in point, Haruhi S2 - people kept blaming Kyoto Animation even though KyoAni is just the studio and not producer or financeerâŚ
In cases itâs not their idea either. Itâs hard to judge or credit given the maze of names and companies involved, which is why a lot of fans tend to just give credit to the studios. For example, Little Snow Fairy Sugar is a concept that began from a TBS producer, initially. Later on additional representatives from other production houses and studios became involved, but itâs a complex chain of credits.
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Yes, and itâs also one of the reasons why licensing anime can become so complicated. Part of the job is just figuring out who actually owns whatâŚlol
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Indeed and getting the ok (or materials) from each one of them sometimes, lol.
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Oh I completely understand all that that Dragoon (stuff about studios). Sometimes the studio has very little control of huge elements of an anime. The producers have the money after all. They call the shots sometimes . Sometimes theyâre just adapting a manga, you canât really mess around too much when your doing that. But we were talking about what Bones has done, and so I just broke down their series, and what I felt about them.
No connection at all between hating or liking FLCL and hating/liking FMA. Thatâs for sure.
It does make my soul bleed a little to hear such dislike/uninterest in FLCL. Itâs a very smart show, one that hit me perfectly in a way no other show has. I donât see the comparision to Excel Saga at all really. FLCL is much more then a comedy, in fact its hard to pindown a genre, it changes with itâs mood. I mean I liked Excel Saga for what it was, but it didnât knock my socks off like this one here. It was a funny little show, but felt kind of shallow and hollow inside. I totally understood why it was a big show though back in the day. But itâs nothing amazing in my opinion. Should be given a watch if you like comedies though.
To like FLCL it helps if your a huge Ganiax fan, or become one after watching it ;). Itâs deep in the way NGE isâŚ
About Rahxephon: I like it so far, but too early to judge this one. The artwork seems very simple though, so Iâm not a big fan of that. Itâs also very muted and kinda of lame looking at times. There are many other series that look much better from this time period IMO. I canât deny the animation is pretty good, but thatâs easy when therâs not much to animate . I donât âhateâ the look of this (like I HATE the look of FMA for example lol ), but itâs not very nice looking. Character designs are good though, so thatâs a plus. I think thatâs most important sometimes.
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Thatâs why I try not to really bash any shows. Every show that I dislike, there is someone out there that really loves. I know how much it bothers me when someone puts down Chrono Crusade or Noir, so I try not to do it to other shows. Though I do have to make the occasional exception, such as Tsubasa or KodochaâŚlol
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YeahâŚbut some shows just get under my nerves and I gata rant sometimes lol. Especially when itâs really well loved and Iâm standing there with my mouth open thinking âdid we just watch the same show?â
Also edited my post, talked about RahXephon, go read !
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Yeah, the color palette in Rahxpehon is a bit muted, but the character designs are excellent. There may be some shows that were better looking, but not too many. I was actually quite suprised when I realized the show was from 2000-2001. It has held up quite well. Iâve seen many other shows from that time frame that have not done the same.
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As far as TV series go, personally I think Lain destroyed this, and that was a few years earlier. Of course thatâs half the episodes as this (and nothing happens half the time so what exactly are they animating :P) .
Shingu is from the EXACT same time period and I think that looks much nicer then this. Well animated, perfect color pallete, and amazing character designs. And some of the backgrounds are really impressive. I canât believe this show is so old.
Slowhand : Donât kill me because of the FMA comments? Please? . I was half joking/going overboard to be funny. But I really donât like that show at all :).
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Iâd say itâs about 50-50, which is to be expected of this forum as a non-hardcore forum. Excel Saga would probably get the same reaction in todayâs climate here. In the last year or two weâve lost a lot of our otaku types, and most of the newer members have more mainstream or casual tastes in anime. (Not that thereâs anything wrong with that). 
But FLCL just isnât a mainstream type show, if you showed it to some random person theyâd go WTF is going on? lol. It doesnât take away from the iconic show that FLCL is. Itâs still a show that I canât watch without many years in between though, even though I thought it was great.
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Lain is pretty good too, as was Shingu, though I wasnât a big fan of either. Lain is a good show, just not one I could see myself rewatching. And I could never get into Shingu, though to be honest, I never gave it much of a chance. But I think all three look pretty damn good compared to some other shows from the same time frame, like the first season of Mahoromatic.
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Nah, I wouldnât dream of it⌠we all have our own opinions. Besides, Iâm the one that canât figure out the appeal of FLCL! (Or Excel Saga)
Besides, if we all liked the same things, it would be dull.
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Yeah FLCL is more of an Otaku show. You gatta âget itâ, and if you donât you really will be wondering âWTF IS GOING ON??â. The show seems so simple to me, because Iâve seen it so much though lol. To me I barely notice all the crazy stuff going on anymore lol. I can just see the story.
Why did we lose all the Otaku/hardcores? Thatâs odd lol.
Also Iâm not sure where exactly my tastes lie. I like lots of niche things, some mainstream, some otaku stuff etc. I feel Iâm in the âmiddleâ though, shows that everyone kind of likes, I love. Shows everyone knows about, but donât really care much about/watch are shows Iâm attracted to. Thatâs why I loved ADV so much, they had a lot of the âmiddle groundâ shows ;), stuff I love, but other people just like. The stuff thatâs not mainstream, but not niche (because most people heard of it/watched it but very few loved it) or otaku either.
Lain - This show is a hard watch to be sure. I tried to re-watch it a year ago, and itâs very hard to get back into it. I love it alot, but you really gata be in the right mindframe for it.
Shingu - On the other hand this show is very easy to get into. I didnât like it much the first chance I gave it. But after an episode or 2 you fall right into place. It;s very slow/slice of lifey, but not a hard watch. Still have to finish it/buy the rest of it lol.
SLowhand: Thanks for being so cool about it. I was kind of being a jerk ;). But I did it more for comedy, then to be mean lol. No one laughed I bet, but hey I tried. I agree though, everyone has different opinions and tastes. Thatâs really the best way to put it. Not everyone will like âxâ or hate âyâ, no matter what you personaly think about it . But if we all loved âzâ it be kinda boring.
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They turned to piracy or moved on to other hobbies, interests - grew up or moved to larger forums where they can otaku-geek-out, since this has always been in general a semi casual anime forum (even though we have always had our share of otakus).
As far as your Shingu comment on the art and animation juxtaposed with RahXephon⌠O_O Might as well compare Evangelionâs production to Blue Seed.
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Your saying RahXephon has better animation then Shingu? REALLY? Both are quite good, same level. Shingu has much more detail though RahXephon is very simple. Spongebob is very well animated too yah know .Maybe because itâs not very detailed . Not hard to animate something drawn so simple.
Really Shingu has much better character desings, background, and everything is so well detailed. âThe show is a MADHOUSE production from 2001, one of their last produced on film with traditional cels. This means that the art and animation maintain their quality, and at the same time exude a warm, hand-made feel that we just donât get today.â - ANN Review: Shingu I agree with that 100%. I mean it looks really well all around.
I never saw Blue Seed man so IDK what you mean by that.
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I loved ADV because they always had such a variety of shows, just like CPM and Geneon did as well. My tastes vary pretty greatly as well, and they all suited me quite well. I could love shows that it seemed everyone else hated, like harem comedies, which Iâm sucker for, as well as intellectual shows like Lain or Eva. I could even get into those Moe shows that everyone seems to hate these days. Variety is the spice of life after all!
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