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…I was under the impression that in Marvel’s lore, anyone who picked up Mjolnir became Thor so she wouldn’t be the daughter of the king of gods…?[/quote]
not sure the exact original; phrasing, but if the one given in that article is correct…
The problem is a female Thor means they are becoming Thor, with the name Thor. Mjolnir doesn’t grant the name only the power.
Mjolnir, the bow and the boat are all just weapons. Marvel just turned the hammer into Green a Lantern Ring so they could explain Thor continuing on like the many Flash’s, Green Lanterns, etc so they could pass the character name, but change the character. That works fine for mortals like Superman who had a death, but Marvel is using an immortal for a character. A freaking GOD! This in itself is a problem, because what mortal could challenge a god? So they needed to muck around with Mjoinir in order to change Thor over the years, rather than just have the character change with time like Clark Kent, Bruce Wayne, etc did.
Thor is a person, not a title. Is Iron Man Tony Stark, or just anyone that put on the suit? Thor never had an alter ego, Thor was his own damn name! Born a god, not given godhood from a dwarven hammer.
The big problem with Disney is how they said this part:
No, it isn’t Thor, because it is a different person from the god born with that name. the hammer itself can be changed from a defined HE, to THE ONE, but it still didn’t change the “posses the power” to “becomes the God of Thunder, and son of Odin”
And Thor is a son of Odin, which a female character cannot be. There is 100s of ways they could make decent female superheros without just trying to swap a penis for a vagina. Valkyries existed. The Norn Sisters existed. Freya existed. Why not just pick another Norsewoman and put them as equal to Thor?
Simple, just like anything else it is the NAME that is important, and Thor is a known product identity so they will change that because starting a new super hero won’t have people that interested and take time for people to adapt and accept and like it. They don’t have faith in story telling enough to make a new comic, they just want to be more politically correct, jsut like everyone else, at the cost of everything else. Because female readers are so interested in seeing a female Thor I guess. What about those that rad it for the beefcake? It is pretty much change for the sake of change, which is stupid.
IF you are bored with things and need a change, rearrange the furniture in your house, don’t go to someone else’s house and start futzing with theirs. These companies think that their IP rights make them sole owners of something, and while they do have the legal rights to make it, the consumer has more invested in it. That is why so many reboots fail and they keep having to reboot things again like Spiderman, Batman, Superman, Hulk.
Reeves, Rouhl (is that how you spell it where Superman has a kid), now a new one.
Bixby, Bana, Norton
West, (Tim Burton series), Bale, whoever the new one is (Daredaveil actor I think Affleck?)
Hammond, Maguire, Garfield
So I guess Hemsworth’s career as Thor in movies is over and it is time to go ahead and hire Angelina Jolie as the new Thor?
Reboots don’t work as the Crowe version of Robin Hood proved. It is also the constant change for the sake of change is why I never got into Ameritrash comics, and prefer Anime which is based on manga. IF your product isn’t good enough to last for ages with stupid change to update things that aren’t just bringing it to new times, then your product has failed. Don’t try to re-image it, just make something new and better and let the old one die.
How many people will this really attract to read Thor that don’t already, and how many does it stand to lose since comics are a dying industry in USA? Are they going to have their female Thor and get female interest and to do so keep male interest by having her in a chainmail bikini?
I jsut don’t see how this change could benefit anything. If a character is sexist, jsut give him an attitude change. This is what character development is for. If a writer cannot write a new female lead that can stand on its own, then how can they write a good one for Thor? Only because they have all the world there and the Thor tropes there and they really don’t have to have new ideas, jsut a pair of breasts and an implied vagina. Drawing “boobs” is not good story telling, nor should it make females more able to identify with the character. Is she going to be dealing with cramps and other physical things females go through? If not, then a male character could still work. Just look at matriarchal societies where men are treating like woman are treated in India. Same coin, different sides.
The image itself even screams chainmail bikini is the way the change is happening because the individual cups breastplate doesn’t do anything and is MORE dangerous. It purposefully says “LOOK AT MY T***!” Breasts and D-cups don’t make for a strong female lead. :side:
It was so much fun that I completely forgot I had not eaten anything past cereal for breakfast. ^_^;
