Dubbing Studios discussion

Personally. I’d like to see Greenfield be the Director for the Chaika dub. because whoever plays Chaika, is going to need the best Director in the business, to pull off anything close to the wonderful performance Chika Anzai did.

I hadn’t put too much thought into how Sentai is going to translate Chaika’s broken Japanese into English, while retaining the cuteness. I’m drawing a blank on any other Sentai/ADV dubbed characters that are comparable.

With both shows, I’m still concerned about the male lead. Sometimes Sentai crushes the leading man roles, but too often I’m noticing them being the weakest link (though not bad) in the dub, even when using the same actor (eg:Grelle). Tooru is pretty pivotal in Chaika, but Shinichi is Parasyte.

It could also be just poor voice direction.

That’s more my theory, that they’re not directing like ADV did. Time for a return to form. :smile:

How did ADV direct their dubs?

Fluidly. Fluidity achieved by not using the “beep” method (or NGP’s “pencil” method, from their low-tech days lol), but rather the “chase” method. It’s not the only factor that set them apart.

According to the now-defunct That Anime Show podcast, when the limits of the beep method were reached, Funi has used the ADV method, or a similar idea, to overcome.

…perhaps better answers to your question are “The superior way” or “the way everyone should” :wink: :laughing: :laughing:

plus, this was also the singles era, where they could concentrate on a handful of episode, usually 4-5 at a time, get into their characters, grow, adapt, etc. and in another 2-3 months the next volume would come out. It usually took anywhere between 6 months to a year from the first volume to the last.

good times…

Yeah, that’s actually the single biggest difference. ADV didn’t dub an entire show at once. They dubbed a handful of episodes every two or three months. Now Seraphim dubs 11-26 episodes in the same time span.

Though in those days, the actors and staff had to get back into, and then out of, the roles every few months. That’s a hurdle that the season sets have eliminate.

I’m still concerned about the legends of Sentai speed dubbing (faster than the Funi broadcast dubs), directors who aren’t hardened ADV vets and the script writing. Can the scriptwriters not keep up with the demand? Is the push to “stay faithful” (whatever that catchphrase really means) tying the hands of the scriptwriters? Is it a combination of both?

I contend that it can’t just be the season sets causing the issue as every dub company is dealing with the season sets and only Sentai is having this issue.

How do the “beep” and “chase methods” work? Explain.

Courtesy of having an in-house studio, I guess?

Once again, poor direction and writing. Either Sentai better start reaching out to other companies or improve whatever Seraphim Digital has.

But it isn’t as though the companies that Sentai could outsource to are regularly leaps and bounds above Sentai’s dubs. It sounds pretty logical to me that if Sentai used outsourcing to ease the dub load on Seraphim then all of their dubs could be like their gems, but since Sentai’s gems seem to happen randomly I’m not sure it actually works lol.

Beep: actors hear the line that precedes the one that they’re about to record (if there is one) then, after a delay marked by a series of beeps (audio cues), the actors deliver their line. For subsequent takes of a line, the audio of the preceding line might not be given.

Chase: actors hear the line preceding the one they’re about to record and as soon as it stops, they immediately deliver their line.

Just saying, that’s all. I’m not saying that Sentai should outsource every dub (they should reserve it for those that are easily going to break even, like Parasyte and Akame ga Kill!).

So which areas still use Beep and which ones use Chase?

Anyways, what gives Chase method the advantage over Beep method?

Been mulling this over. Maybe Sentai should get into broadcast dubs too: It’d be a “shorter version” of dubbing back in the days of singles and, more importantly, it’d result in Sentai spending much more time dubbing a show than they are now.

Though Sentai doesn’t have a streaming service that they need a constant stream of content to keep subscribers with (Funi) and can’t treat its dubs like AoA is treating DRRR’s, so I’m not seeing the motivation for them to jump on the broadcast dub bandwagon.

I know Sentai has used local talent in their dubs (Seraphim Digital, though it’s independent of Sentai) but recently they mentioned Sentai Filmworks Studios when they were talking about live auditions of the Parasyte dub that will be held at Anime Matsuri, which means either they managed to establish an in-house recording facility in their headquarters a la Funimation or they purchased Seraphim Digital.

Sentai, Maiden Japan, Section 23, Seraphim Digital and various other businesses have common owners, many of whom have ties back to the classic ADV Films business. It is all a contorted history of bad business decisions, a bad economy, a burst Anime market bubble and the State of Texas’ laws that forced this arcane structure on those people as a way of staying in the Anime business.

Likely the Sentai Filmworks Studios is a new business entity that has a different mix of owners. It probably won’t replace Seraphim Digital, but it may be able to do something(s) that Seraphim has a problem doing.

Mark Gosdin

Where you hear that? Twitter? This seems interesting.

I did hear from Chris Ayres that he had to move to another studio. So I guess he means he moved to the Sentai Studios?

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I would only see them doing that if Funi’s efforts turn into a big success for them. Sentai is willing to experiment, but this would be a costly venture and I don’t think it’s something they would jump into without a strong belief they would make money on it. Not to mention, it would be a major headache at first, especially if their staffing levels aren’t high enough, and with their dubbing studio technically being a separate company.

So you’re saying is that Sentai and Switchblade/Maiden Japan (despite being founded before the ADV breakup) are owned by AEsir Media.

Yup, Texas laws logic at its finest. I guess the state must really want their businesses around.

Or maybe it’s just a new studio founded by Sentai to relieve congestion over at Seraphim Digital thanks to the speed dubbing that happened last year, much like how Bang Zoom! opened up a second studio last year. I’m not sure how Sentai’s able to establish an in-house recording facility within their headquarters a la Funimation since their headquarters also share space with Switchblade Picture/Maiden Japan.

I don’t have any direct knowledge of how the various Houston Anime businesses are structured, it’s more that I’m condensing information down that I’ve read in various articles, blogs, bbs, etc.

I have had experience in businesses with upwards of 50 separate corporate entities and a like number of partnerships that were related by having a common set of owners. Unless the ownership is varied enough business like that may end up by law being treated as a single entity. So if Sentai needed to establish a new dubbing studio to do simul-dubs then they may very well start up a new legal entity in order to facilitate financing or bring in new backers.

It is all just speculation. But that’s the fun part isn’t it? :grinning:

Mark Gosdin